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The Joys of Vinyl - at a price... [Jan. 5th, 2008|09:32 am]
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Diane and I still have several boxes of LPs in the attic, and sooner or later they're going to be burned to CD, transcribed as MP3s or whatever. About three years ago I even bought a turntable with a built-in amp and various direct-to-computer connections, but the fact that about 90% of the recordings remain untouched gives some indication of the lack of urgency. It's one of the "I'll do it when I get around to it" things that everyone means to deal with eventually.

The notion wandered through my head again last night, when I wanted to listen to a particular piece of period music while writing - Pox on You for a Fop (yes, really) performed by The City Waites, and I realised it was still packed away in one of the LP boxes.

Out of curiosity I trawled the Net for any reference to my old hi-fi stuff. That was when I discovered that I couldn't remember most of their names...! All the low-to-mid-range amplifiers and tuner-amps ("receivers", as they were sometimes called) are gone, so there's no jolt of memory. The first and cheapest was an Amstrad, I'm sure of that, but its successors have vanished beyond recall.

Turntables are easier, because some of them - such as Garrard and Rega Planar, both machines I owned - are still going strong. The final one, a Goldring-Lenco, seems to be a bit of a collector's item; mine spent about 20 years in my Mum's attic and has probably been dumped by now, along with my Wharfedale speakers. It's funny to think that the couple of hundred quid I paid in the mid 1970s for a very basic system translates into enough for something very high-end nowadays...

I remember seeing a Punch cartoon years ago, of a chap staring at an entire symphony orchestra in his friend's living-room, while the friend tells him "On the whole, it's cheaper than a really good hi-fi system."

You can still try for that joke. Start with a turntable, a tonearm, a cartridge, an amplifier, a system rack to put them on, some cables (you'll need more than just one pair); and a set of speakers. Oh, and a record cleaner. It's good to see we've advanced beyond those little anti-static squeezy guns. Correction. I spoke too soon. However, the last time I bought one of these it cost IRLĀ£4.99. Even allowing for inflation and a lousy rate of exchange, Ouch...

I found all those items on just one website, and decided not to look any further. For one thing, I was starting to get an image of all this kit being bought by someone with a single armchair in just the right spot between the speakers, and a solitary test record. He then manages to scratch his record, goes stark raving Doctor Phibes looney bonkers and commits a series of interesting hi-fi-themed murders.

How long would it take to scratch someone to death with a gramophone needle at a constant 33.3 rpm?

Once again, Ouch...
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[User Picture]From: [info]particle_person
2008-01-05 05:43 pm (UTC)

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It would be a diamond needle in a soundproofed room, of course.
[User Picture]From: [info]dorianegray
2008-01-05 06:17 pm (UTC)

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For one thing, I was starting to get an image of all this kit being bought by someone with a single armchair in just the right spot between the speakers, and a solitary test record.

"Surprised they let you have it in this room anyway, the acoustics are all wrong. If you raise the ceiling four feet... put the fireplace from that wall to that wall... you'll still only get the stereophonic effect if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
(Flanders and Swann, "A Song of Reproduction")
[User Picture]From: [info]megabitch
2008-01-05 07:36 pm (UTC)

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I was starting to get an image of all this kit being bought by someone with a single armchair in just the right spot between the speakers, and a solitary test record.

Ah, I didn't realise you'd met my ex ;)
[User Picture]From: [info]petermorwood
2008-01-07 03:24 am (UTC)

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He must have had several clones in my form at school.
[User Picture]From: [info]burntcopper
2008-01-05 07:50 pm (UTC)

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You forget the ones who insist on buying gold wiring rather than copper and having said wiring raised a precise measurement off the floor to make sure the vibrations of people's feet don't interfere with the quality of sound.

I sadly have overheard this conversation several times on public transport and facepalm each time.
[User Picture]From: [info]petermorwood
2008-01-07 03:47 am (UTC)

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Didn't forget - didn't know about. Didn't need to know, either...

I'm content that all the spaghetti at the back of the TV, Skybox, DVD player, DVD recorder, VCR (yeah, still have one), amp and external speakers is plugged into the proper holes and doesn't shoot sparks at the cats when I throw the switch. I invested in one of those multi-scart blocks, the ones with push-buttons, and had to draw a chart to show which combination of buttons allows which thing to talk to which other thing without having to rewire the lot. I've got it about right, and the resulting sound quality is "more than adequate", which is enough for me.

D & I once visited the house of a Hollywood friend-of-a-friend, who proudly showed off his new THX home cinema system ("Installed by the guy who did it for Lucas". Given this guy's reputation, that was probably true enough.) But because he'd got the volume cranked up to commercial cinema levels, my ears weren't able to decide if it was worth going to all that trouble. Since this took place (that evening, anyway) in in a living-room with everyday furniture, bookshelves etc. rather than a purpose-built viewing room, I don't think so.

[User Picture]From: [info]liasbluestone
2008-01-05 08:33 pm (UTC)

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I am showing my age here by recalling the Not The Nine O'Clock News "Hi-fi shop" sketch.

Rowan Atkinson: Hello, I wonder if you can help me, I'd like to buy a gramophone.
Mel Smith: Gra-mo-phone?
Rowan Atkinson: Yes, I'd like to buy a gramophone.
Mel Smith: Sorry grandad, but I don't think we've got any gra-mo-phones in.
etc...

That said, I'm sitting here with an Akai turntable on the shelf above my head, and a Pioneer amp under my monitor, desultorily doing the same job of digitising a box of vinyl. Both were given to me on my 18th birthday, which makes them very nearly 26 years old, and still working perfectly. I sold the Wharfedale speakers on eBay a few years ago, when I realised that I would never use them again. They still sounded fantastic too.
[User Picture]From: [info]tinman0
2008-01-05 10:43 pm (UTC)

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I'm reminded of the Rob Buckman article where he talked about getting seriously into hifi but gave it up when he worried about hearing the glue in the speaker enclosure

also there was a nice piece in the Skeptic magazine many moons ago (vol 3.4) which looked at the pseudoscience related to hifi systems. This went beyond the realms of oxygen-free cables and green markers (draw a ring around the edge of your cds and it reduced laser scatter) and into a bizarre theory about having to have an odd number of corners in your system. Thus you had to cut a corner off each of the different pieces of kit and this even extended to the album covers so that they had five corners instead of four
[User Picture]From: [info]silly_swordsman
2008-01-05 10:58 pm (UTC)

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IIRC, the cut corners on the album covers was a sign they were remaindeered or cheap Mexican imports, and could not be sold for full price, according to a friend who ran a vinyl shop back in the day (black walls, posters of Motörhead, Saxon, Judas Priest and Deep Purple on the top of the walls and ceiling - the whole stereotypical kaboodle, but it wasn't stereotypical in 1983). I can imagine someone being ashamed of having bought a cheap album come up with the "odd angles" thing as a smokescreen.

The Technics tape deck here still works brilliantly, as does the Arcam amp and Tannoy speakers, but the trusty old Dual record player gave it's breath up a while ago. It still works, but there's a leak somewhere which gives a loud monotonous humming (I'd guess 50 Hz, from the mains) after up to a minute's play.
[User Picture]From: [info]gsbrickner
2008-01-06 04:10 am (UTC)

Photo pre-amp to USB

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[User Picture]From: [info]petermorwood
2008-01-07 03:17 am (UTC)

Re: Photo pre-amp to USB

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Not that one specifically, but it;s like many of the greeblies that install between the turntable and the PC. D claims that one of our own music-transfer programs has a similar sort of filter built-in, so we'll only look for an add-on if said filter doesn't work well enough.
[User Picture]From: [info]targaid
2008-01-06 04:08 pm (UTC)

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LPs? I've still got 78s somewhere.

Okay, they were my dad's, but I keep telling myself I'll ebay them on that elusive Someday.
[User Picture]From: [info]petermorwood
2008-01-07 03:22 am (UTC)

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We used to have a couple of boxes of 78s in the attic of the old house, but like much else they went away during the move after my Dad died in 1980; probably into a skip, but it took the next 6 months to realise what sticky fingers our "helpers" had...

Ah well, at least if they were pinched, someone may have got some use out of them. More than I'd have ever done.
[User Picture]From: [info]particle_person
2008-03-11 03:16 pm (UTC)

off-topic

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I haven't seen a peep out of either you or DD in weeks now. Everything okay over there? I only ask because it's unusual for both of you to be so quiet for so long at the same time.
[User Picture]From: [info]petermorwood
2008-03-18 08:51 pm (UTC)

Re: off-topic

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We're both getting over a foul case of bronchial flu (caught during our anniversary evening out, and there've been a couple of other health things going on. Not much interest in blogging.
[User Picture]From: [info]particle_person
2008-03-18 09:13 pm (UTC)

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Ack. Get well soon then, to both of you.

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